Kevin Johnson needs to be off this team.....PERIOD. If I was as lazy as he
was on that last play my employer would fire my ass. The Browns would follow
suit if they had any damn sense. Absolutely disgusting performance all the
way around. I won't blame the O-line b/c it was 4 beer truck drivers in
there pretending to play football. To hell with
||This teams tackling.. It SUCKS!!! With one exception.. Courtney Brown!! How
can so many players miss so may tackles game after game and still stay on
||Neither Tim Couch nor Kelly Holcomb did anything to help this team
win. Somebody has to lead and I just don't see it here. And Quincy Morgan? Come
on Quincy, stop talking and get open. Then catch the ball. PLEASE !You need
more than one catch from your number two WR.
||Tim looked tentative and didn't appear to be interested in even playing in
this game. Goathorns to Davis and Arians for making it obvious they have no
confidence in Couch. Notice how creative the offense got with Holcomb in
||Once again Davis gets
out coached by a vet head coach. Doesn't make gameday
adjustments. Did they plan for the second half? If the spread offense moves
the ball why not use it more? Starting to wonder about Davis plan for the
year, if he even has one. I know the OL has tons of injuries but this is
getting ridiculous. They have better talent than they are showing. There is
no emotion. it's all uninspired play out there. They don't throw down field,
run on plays where everyone knows they are going to run. Holcomb had every
right to lay into the linemen. they did not do their job today. When are
they going to get some OL who can play? WHEN????? There are guys out there
playing who wouldn't be on the practice squad of most teams. Come on. As
Browns fans we deserve better than the product we got on the field over the
last 2 games. Maybe it's good that the bye week is next week...the need the
||On consecutive drives, Arians calls two screen plays that DON'T EVEN GET TO
THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE, much less first downs?! This clown has a lion's share
of the blame for the total implosion of the offensive unit this first part
of the year.
||Bruce Arians is the offense antichrist. Even the announcers were hammering
his inept play-calling. Arians must go now. ARIANS MUST GO NOW! ARIANS MUST
||yes, we have a number of injuries to the offensive line. but, you have to
game plan for what you have. or are we? do we have nothing on offense?
||the offense sucked, probably because of the coaches
||Its getting to be more like a job watching these guys. They're in there 5th
year and it looks like there going backwards. Problem starts at the top I
wish Lerner would of never renewed Carmen's contract.
||One Missippi two Missi.... (sack)
Arians the worst OC in NFL History? Have you ever seen so many 3rd and
4th down throws short of the first down marker? This is the poorest
performing Browns team sine 1999. Is this the worst Offensive Line you've
ever seen? I dunno...but it's pretty close. BD & co should be looking for
new jobs soon...If I were Randy Lerner, they would already know their fates.
This crew is a terrible waste of $'s
||Cant convert on 3rd
down, cant get a stop on 3rd down ...
||well our offense is just sad. and all the
offensive line injuries don't help.
but look at new England half there defense is hurt, and yet they still play
good. why don't we??? both QB's look bad today, but i not blaming them, i
seen both of them play before and they both are good. it is the coaching and
there system. everyone says couch holds the ball to long and just dumps it
off, well Kelly did the same thing to, we threw more balls to Steve Heiden
today. were are our big name guys, cant they get open??? against a banged up
defense. this team needs a lot of help and they are not going to solve all
the problems is 2 weeks, what's sad is that we can win the division at 8-8,
hell 7-9 might do it. we need a to get a good GM to re-look over the offense
and get some people in here that want to win and not just play for a
paycheck and talk themselves up like the second coming of rice.
||Everyone deserves one for another uninspired
schizophrenic offense needs to go. I'm convinced it's the OC...
Unimaginative playcalling for the majority of the game... sad.
||Phil buddy, TOUCHBACKS PLEASE!!! Where were the holding
penalties, for both
teams if needs be, but come on the entire game in the NFL without a freaking
||Why did the 3rd down plays all run pass routes that were 2 yards short of
the 1st? Why did Couch (and Holcomb to a certain extent) always throw to the
VERY short receiver on 3rd down?
||We STINK. What a great offense! I'm tired of hearing how great our WRs are.
The only thing Butch does right is challenge the officials. WTF - how is
James Jackson starting over Jamel. Jackson would kill any offense -
including the Chiefs or Rams.
||why did Policy give this college coach GM power. and by the way BOTH QB's
are bad in this system why cant we let Couch run the Bills Offense from the
Jim Kelly years, I think we would be awesome with that offense. We have
great receivers and don't use them
||Hard to prevent injuries, but this is what happens when you neglect the
O-Line for 3 years, thanks Coaching Staff!
I'm not giving any goats today. I thought we played well enough considering
the injury issues. I just can't bring myself to bash anyone on this team for
the effort they put out with what they had offensively.
||How do you look in the mirror on Sunday night
Arians? you're the worst
offensive co. in the league! how do i know? because only an idiot can take a
team with so much talent at the skilled positions and only produce 3 points!
and guess what else? tight ends and full backs can do more than block! and
also, why do carry that big play sheet around with you? you know the four
plays you run and you certainly dont need it so the opposing team can't read
you're lips, because they know what's coming from you're predictability! and
Davis, you should go back to college ball. you've been out-coached the entire
season. you can pick talent, but you sure can't use it. the way you handle
the affairs of this team is criminal. from putting unneeded pressure on both
our quarterbacks with press conferences, to calling josh booty on the phone
to tell him he was released, to the horrific play calling on the field. it's
fourth and one, punt. Oh, fourth and nine? go for it! and let me tell you,
one fake punt is not going to cut it! the team is uncomfortable, flat, and
unenthusiastic at this point. you can tell by the play and the action on the
sidelines. once supportive team mates are just running on and off the field
like they're punching in and out of a job they don't like. And check you're
ego at the door, you're not that good. Mr. Al Lerner, please do me and other
Browns fans a favor, fire butch Davis and Bruce Arians. And I promise you,
the great city of Cleveland will finally have the football team it deserves!
||BD has ruined this team, Bud did a better job with his has beens and never
weres than Butch can do with his personal choices
||Boy oh boy having 1 starter from our O-line in there really hurts. Holcomb
gets a horn not because of the way he played, but the way he came down on
Fowler in the middle of the field and then as they walked to the sideline.
You can go ahead and yell at a player on your team but wait until you are on
the sidelines off camera. I didn't see Fowler turning around and screaming
at Holcomb when he would float a pass over a receivers head.
||Once again the offense sucks - it doesn't matter who plays QB if you
offensive coordinator can't put together a decent gameplan. Why did we keep
abandoning the running game?
||Melvin Fowler - Regardless of his inexperience, there is still absolutely NO
excuse for messing up a simple snap like that. GO PLAY FOR THE BENGALS!
||It is still Carmen's fault that our team is in the place that it is.
However, Arians need to pull his head out of his behind and open this
||Arians and Davis need to share in this ineptness of the offense which began
with Arians system and has escalated into a QB controversy which neither can
run consistently . Don't blame the QB's. Northcutt made some bad decisions on
||Ah, another pathetic offensive performance. Can't wait to visit Priest Holmes in two weeks.
||offense what offense.. Kelly or Tim don't seem to matter
||Tim and Kelly both were pretty ineffective. I have to start wondering with
the expectations everyone had for the offense this year what the problem is?
Could it be Arians, I don't know but something is wrong!
||1. Bruce Arians...for failing to put together a game plan that would take
advantage of pats' weaknesses. 2. Bruce Arians.... for calling plays that
that left us one yard short of whatever was needed. 3. Bruce Arians.....for
killing Couch and Holcomb 4. Oh, did I already mention Bruce Arians?
||I've seen pee-wee teams with more explosive offenses. That was totally
ridiculous. Could the play calling be more predictable? And what exactly was
Butch Davis' game plan yesterday? I don't want to hear about injuries as an
excuse, because they knew all week they were going in to that game banged
up. New England's had injuries too, and they are playing just fine. It's the
coach's responsibility to prepare his team to play hard. Evidently, Butch
was too busy "blowing smoke" all week instead of formulating a game plan.
||Kills me every week to hear the announcers talk about our receivers and then
see all the 5 yard passes.
||Well the O-Line...what more needs to be said on that...Its not so much of
the guys that played but for them all in general...stupid
injuries...Coaches! How many times did we see miss tackles...how many times
on 3rd and short did we see a 0-yard pattern run by the WR's? Play calling
was bad too. Kelly Started out ok...made some quick choices with the
ball....but then he yelled at his O-Line that was doing the best they could.
Kelly was taking his frustration out on his teammates...then the forced throw
at the end with the int took the cake for a goat award...Defense needs to
learn how to tackle.
Kelly exploded at the O-Line and threw a pick that cost the browns the
game...O-line needs to heal and play better and the coaches need to teach
the D how to tackle the O-Line how to block and call better plays for 3rd
||amazin' play callin' Bruce,3rd&9 and we throw 5 yards "deja vu"..how can we
put points on our board when we can't cross the 50 yd line..Give Joe D. a
call, hell ,he'll play for free! bye week, smiiiweek, time to evaluate the
"infrastructure" from pole cat Policy down! Our team needs
something and I
hope they find it!
||Melvin Fowler- This guy is a waste of space. Snapping the ball prematurely
on a key third down play is inexcusable. I don't blame Holcomb for chewing
him out. Bruce Arians- Playcalling was terrible, as usual. He doesn't know
how to make adjustments. This guy really needs to get the pink slip after
this season. He has 4 quality WRs and he can't utilize them properly. LBs-
Aside from a couple good plays from Bentley and Boyer, this unit looked
completely lost on the field. They still have tackling problems, and they
let that TE run all over the place. Couch/Holcomb- Had to put them together
cause they both sucked. Neither of them could read the blitz and call
||FIRE BRUCE ARIANS, FIRE HIM NOW!!! What a worthless load of s**t. Get him
off the damn field and into the booth so he might have a clue as to what the
hell is happening on the field. How can he possibly see what happened on a
play while he's standing on the sideline? HE CAN'T, That's how! We also need
to get the moron that is in the booth feeding bad info. to Arians heading
down the road. I'm way past tired of watching this mess.
||What do 3 points get you in the NFL?...A big fat loss! Bruce has to go, and
Butch needs to get the O on track. Remember the days when CLE had NO
weapons? Now there are so many weapons that we don't know which on to use.
Yeah, right! Butch does know diddly about Offense!!!
||Please take some advice. You hear many fans say "old school." There is
of meaning in those words. There is also a load of tradition and winning.
The Browns and their fans are "Old School." Trying to change uniforms,
stadium music, policies, rules stuffed down our throats, advertisements
thrown at us from every direction of the stadium. "Old School" worked pretty
well in the past with happy fans and winning games. Take a look and
||Arians playcalling still sucks. Timmy started to look like his old self
again. Where is the #2 from the Steeler game? Pathetic letting a TE chew up
a Defense all day long. Graham isn't a Shockey, Heap, or a Sharpe, so whats
||Bruce Arians confounds me with his calls. Some are brilliant, some are
profoundly stupid. There's more offensive talent on this team than
defensive... or at least that's what we were led to believe. Now the defense
is making a weekly habit of showing up the O. Robert Griffith = liability.
He's old. He's slow. He can't tackle. Why is it we brought this guy here.
Time to put Crocker in -- he may be green, but at least he can catch a WR.
Kelly Holcomb chewed out a line that I thought did reasonably well, against
a tough D. He bitch out his linemen, trouble is Kelly, when they rush more
guys than you have blockers, you're going to get sacked, Man. I appreciate
his passion and fire, but it wasn't the O-line that threw a pick to loose
||Davis - What they hell does he mean the D-line had a good game? Was he
watching the same game? Holcomb - Missed badly on two wide-open receivers,
didn't protect the ball on a fumble, didn't get rid of the ball and took a
sack from the right side (he watched the guy come get him), missed KJ at the
end, and called for Fowler to snap the ball then put all the blame on the
center even though it was Holcomb that wasn't paying attention. Barry
Alvarez - As a Badger alumn, all I can say is who the hell calls a 1 yard WR
screen on a 4th and 4?!?!
||dump Arians and hire Tony Wise!
||When is Andre Davis going to break a kickoff?!?!?!
||kelly kelly kelly still a ? what can you do against a real defense
it against a prevent now show us something. butch its time to let bruce go
get as much as you can out of the season and shop for a good oc. and you get
a goat for being dumb enough to hire him and not call the damn plays
yourself. time to make some changes.
||How often do we see Gerard Warren standing around just watching the action?
||FIRE BRUCE ARIANS!
||Arians must go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
||Butch, it's coming down to you, man. Look what
Belichick does with his hurt
||Butch Davis, if you proclaim one more moral victory in those postgame
speeches, I’m going to scream. Don’t pat these guys on the back for
stinking. Geesh. Gerard W., you are NOT worth the money. I’d gladly trade
you for a bag of cleat cleaners and a new Offensive Coordinator. Speaking
of.....Bruce Arians, who hasn’t figured out our vanilla gameplan yet? Run on
1st, run on 2nd, pass on 3rd. Maybe it’s not the quarterbacks at all--maybe
two great qb's are being smothered by this pitiful excuse for an offense.
||That's twice we only needed 10 points to get a win. The offense was weak...
Better study hard and get ready for the 8-0 Chiefs. Hope everyone gets
healthy and comes back strong. How about drafting some offensive linemen
Holcomb for ripping his line several times on national TV instead of taking
the blame and for trying to throw the ball deep into the wind when he
doesn't have the arm strength (purple heart for going in 2 games in a row
and playing hard even though he shouldn't even be suited up w/ his
injuries)...goathorns until he's fired to Arians...worst OC in the game by
far!!!...horns to Butch for putting a player (kelly) in jeopardy of ruining
his career into a game 2 weeks in a row...that's why you have a 3rd
QB...suit him up each week ......and fire Ariens and bring in
Bernie....imagine this offense w/ "the man" in charge of it!!!!!
||Butch Davis: For his continuous lack of being able to fire these player up
for a game. Hell, Dick Vermeil is a lot older, and look at how he pumps up
the Chiefs before every game. Damn, I wish we didn't play them in two
weeks... OLine: 'nuff said. Steve Heiden: Can someone please tell me why we
kept passing to this guy and not to people like Northcutt, KJ or Davis?
||The Browns O.C. sucks. It doesn't matter who the QB is, there is something
wrong with the system ... did anyone see Brian *@#?#* Griese last night
against the same Chargers we stunk it up to. Holcomb for his temper tantrum
on a botched snap that was clearly his fault, and instead of the announcers
kissing Ty Law's ass on the last pick how about the severely under thrown pass
(KJ had the guy beat). Davis- I am getting the distinct impression that it
isn't much of an accomplishment to take a bad team and make them competitive
to average, but it is clearly a whole other ballgame to make them above
average, and I am beginning to have my doubts.